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 KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me?

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Alluvion




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PostSubject: KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me?   KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me? Icon_minitimeWed Jun 13, 2007 10:07 pm

I'm having a little trouble with aggro in Karazhan so I'm keeping my eyeballs on the meter but it doesnt' always help.

For instance there are times when I'm at the top of the meter and the tank still has aggro.

And there are also times when I am below the tank yet gain aggro (talkin regular mobs here not random chargers).


So can anybody tell me a more effective way of using it? I know there are several numbers there I'm mostly looking at dmg and my place in the aggro order.

My armor smith will thank you.
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Omarr

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PostSubject: Re: KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me?   KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me? Icon_minitimeWed Jun 13, 2007 10:21 pm

a good rule of thumb is to keep below the tank at all times

avoid large burst damage until the tank as a few seconds to build some sort of threat with the target.

The threat meter is just a ballpark figure, the main idea is to stay below the tank at all times.
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HeavenHollar

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PostSubject: Re: KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me?   KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me? Icon_minitimeThu Jun 14, 2007 7:50 am

If there are more than one mob, KLH reports the overall figure as well unless a master target was set. I think Omen Threat meter can figure out between different mobs if they have different names.

Lets see if I can recall this from memory:

Assuming the tank has aggro, it takes 10% more threat from a melee ranged attacker to pull aggro and 30% more threat from a ranged attacker. Its best to try and keep below the MT at all times so those burst blasts (that will likely put you over) don't steal aggro.

I can't remember the threat modifiers for everyone, but whatever amount of threat one produces from damage is modified by some classes for some situations. ie: def stance for a warrior, 130% standard threat from damage, 145% with talents. Berserker and battle stance get 80% standard threat from damage. I think rogues are 90% (they have threat and aggro drop abilities to counter), but I believe most everyone else is about 100%. I can't remember though. This does not count special abilities that are intended to increase threat.

As Omarr says though, its a ballpark figure since these are all just mods and aren't precise.
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Alluvion




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PostSubject: Re: KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me?   KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me? Icon_minitimeThu Jun 14, 2007 10:15 am

At one point Pales had 15k dmg into one of two mobs we pulled and I had 9k, Pomp pulled aggro from Pales (a theme for the night) and the mob killed pomp.

I hit him with an frostbolt as he went back to pales, still well below pales on the klh meter, and the mob turns on me. I iceblock and it goes back and attacks mt again. I drop iceblock and it immediately comes back to me and one shots me.

I have frost channeling to reduce my aggro, And I'm waiting for multiple sunder armors to be put on mobs before laying into them but even with the threat meter I'm still guessing on whether I'll get aggro or not.

I'm having trouble walking that line of being up there on DPS meters, and not being an aggro magnet.
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PostSubject: Re: KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me?   KLH Threat meter. Can someone teach me? Icon_minitimeThu Jun 14, 2007 10:21 am

I wonder if these were those finicky types of mobs than. The kind that don't use the standard threat gain values but instead 'clear' their list of all things that have happened x seconds ago. That or any incapacitating or stunning effect on Pales would have them move to someone else.

I know I'm probably not being much help, but it is possible to do nothing wrong and still have things go awry.
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